Drastic and Sudden damage increase while doing aoe

Edit: misread, I guess you're using the highest level protection level you have available to you.

The last time I tested the maps for damage cause I was working on my Mob Damage Database the mobs Treemmon hit 363 and the Saeleos / Yacop hit indeed 364. I am pretty sure higher-level Deadlock skill doesn't increase the damage reduction of the attacks from mobs. I could only really think of the obvious suspect mistakes such as

• On accident using a lower level Protection skill
• Equipping loot shield by accident over your enhanced once
• Equipping gear or armor by accident that is loot over your enhanced one
• Mounting the wrong mount by accident
• Using a lower-level defense skill level from a defense pet
• Fashion that has expired
• Your first time entering the map with a defense roulette buff that has expired
• Your first time entering the map with a defense buff item or bless that has expired
• Forgetting Spa buff

Yet you stated that " everything was the same " so... hmm I guess I'll go out to Bangle and see for myself if something changed.

I aoe in bangle regularly and have seen no change

There were a few instances being reported in the past, all involving the Templar class (I reported it long while ago here: RE: Templar Class: Damage Inconsistency From Mobs )

I think this bug still exists and solely (if not mostly) affects the Templar class.

This usually happens when some change in defense (e.g. getting buff) happens on the Templar class, causing it to somehow not register and therefore result in some sort of damage inconsistency from mobs.

It might be worth observing potential causes that may trigger this bug (trying to control as much as possible for other buffs). For example, in my thread long ago, it was the spa buff that triggered it (getting a new one results in not being registered in the char's overall defense). Other causes could be changing wings mid-AoE, too (e.g. Robo Wings to atk wings or something else).

The workaround is still probably the same: Relogging and it should fix up the defense. Hoping that works in the meantime, but it'd be helpful to finally pin down what exactly causes this defense discrepancy for this class.

Well, we did fix a templar skill glitch earlier last week, but if the fix had negative affects, i think you would have noticed it sooner than just 2 days ago.

Celten now that you mention it, I did experience this in Litrohild. Often times when I swap to Attackwings using in combination with Saint Rising and having a Defense Buff swapping around my stuff. Back then however I was an Avenger. When Jay experienced it, that must have also been a while ago.

A lot of variables to try and recreate this problem and perhaps not enough AoE-ing Avengers / Saintguardians who constantly do the specific action that triggers the bug within a week or few days.

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Did some more testing and the damage value does remain normal at 364 defense requirement. I can't seem to simulate the bug, however, all my testing has been without Spa buff. Tried triggering by swapping gear, using multiple lower level skill buffs and skills in general including lower level Saint Rising, Eurosia and Deadlock. Did so with warping back and forth with scrolls and realm hopping with no results so far.

I'll try to test tomorrow again with Spa buffs

I tested it one more time with the Spa buff and I was able to replicate it once. I crashed and my test was ruined. There might be some merit to it affecting Holy Avengers more often or just Holy Avengers over Saint Guardians as well since OG_Impulse and I when experiencing the bug were Avengers at the time before the Saint Guardian update which correlates to the OP of the thread also being an Avenger. But, maybe I am reaching here. I have trouble recreating this bug consistently, but I can see it being an issue if a player experiences it frequently. Would like more Data on this if anyone can provide it.

I was having this issue with my Warrior. I think that the bug arises from using a def-increasing buff (such as Bulwark or Protection) while wearing +10 POW Robo Wings (not the upgraded colored ones) after grabbing the defense spa.

Even though I had more than 2+363 defense on my warrior, I was getting hit for more than 1-2s at Bangle Valley, like you described in this post. Changing maps didn't resolve the issue, but relogging did. It was kind of a hassle to relog after every spa, so I tried to find another solution. The solution I found was to swap my Back accessory gear (from Robos to whatever else, like attack wings) and then switch back to my Robo Wings. I also found it interesting that this discrepancy in defense only occurred while wearing POW Robo Wings, and not my AGI ones.

Hope this helped.

I also experienced this on my sm in waterfall; I switched to dragon cape from robos and the def increase didn't register. After switching back to robos and then back to cape again it fixed.

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I was having this issue with my Warrior. I think that the bug arises from using a def-increasing buff (such as Bulwark or Protection) while wearing +10 POW Robo Wings (not the upgraded colored ones) after grabbing the defense spa.

I don´t think so. I had 2+363 for bangle only geared. 2 Things in common:

• Def mount (i guess)
• Pow RoboWings (upgraded or not).

The same bug happened in Amorica (2+377). In this time I had Spa+ def pearls to reach the def, pulled half map and for a strange reason... mobs started to do more damage than the usual, casted bulwark once and problem solved for the whole time I stayed.
What does each case have in common? Because this problem is being quite annoying.

I'll let synex know. It seems the fix to the glitch earlier this month had some negative effects.

It has happened to me before with both SM and AL, but only when someone lend me a def skill pet, i noticed that sometimes i didnt have the extra +10 of def, it easily fixed by swapping gears again, as if the value didnt register correctly the first time.

mostly happened when i buffed outisde and went for spa.

for example:

took spa,had the skill pet buff still running, start gathering and i noticed getting hit for 8-9 when i should have enought def for the map.

it when back to normal just by unequiping and re equiping the robo wings but also should be fine with any other gear.(not reccomended)

same as that weird glitch from the jureah last stand where you lose a lot of defense at the end and bosses start one shooting you.

but this was from a while ago not recently.