My Templar Experience...

  • Healer is just the OG step child and Templar joined that rank.

    Y'all ain't gonna cyberbully me or try to push on me
    Until I'm becoming some chick who I'm not

    I'm a wolf, I dont lie with sheep;)


    Burn the circus down 'cause the world is full of clowns
    They're all stupid and they're proud, making smiles on they mouths
    I don't hang with Bozos, homie, I can't be around you
    Anyone who knows me, knows my feet don't fit in clown shoes


  • Its very sad to see that the game and the server dieing again....specialy for the game that most of us loved and enjoyed.

    The Point when players delte charaters what they spend alot time and effort becouse of disapointment , its like buring out a wound to stop the bleeding , its painfull.


    There where many miss steps on building up the game that now formaly changed the game in bad direction , the game lost many of the key elements that the original game had , we understand that the team behind the game did these changes for balance and better good but sems like it went to far and end up this stage that we have now.


    I personaly see a few good changes too , that improved the game from the original and made gameplay more comfortable.

    And thats it.


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  • should be scrambling and working on A SOLUTION with those who play that class and TRY to talk to those that left.

    We have been working on improvements, and I have the 9th most posts on the forums, so you can see I have been talking to the community. When you say we have done nothing, right after a post explaining the things we have done and had planned, then you are the one not listening.

    The templar class line was suppose to get improvements through dragon raid reward gear, the gear already been added to the game, but the raid kept getting delayed and now delayed indefinitely. So recently we've discussed just adding some of the QoL requests such as combining skills directly to them without the dragon raid gear. I wish the GMs working on the dragon raid were a little more transparent about it rather than just quietly removing it from the roadmap, but it is what it is.
    Fundamentally, the class is good. Its the only class that can completely solo without relying heavily on pots or a healer. Paladins are the only other class that can self heal its hp and mp. I agree the skills could use improvements, specifically combining some skills like brace up and protection into one skill. The last update to the class's skills came just a few weeks after Rage's thread Templar Player Desires - Templar - Xen Rebirth so to say we don't listen isn't fair. The team suffers more from being a little unorganized than not listening, if you want me to be honest. But we are all volunteers, none of us are getting paid to do this, so things will naturally take longer to implement than one would hope. I try to communicate and be as transparent as possible, and get community feedback through forum polls when an issue is controversial.

  • We have been working on improvements, and I have the 9th most posts on the forums, so you can see I have been talking to the community. When you say we have done nothing, right after a post explaining the things we have done and had planned, then you are the one not listening.

    The templar class line was suppose to get improvements through dragon raid reward gear, the gear already been added to the game, but the raid kept getting delayed and now delayed indefinitely. So recently we've discussed just adding some of the QoL requests such as combining skills directly to them without the dragon raid gear. I wish the GMs working on the dragon raid were a little more transparent about it rather than just quietly removing it from the roadmap, but it is what it is.
    Fundamentally, the class is good. Its the only class that can completely solo without relying heavily on pots or a healer. Paladins are the only other class that can self heal its hp and mp. I agree the skills could use improvements, specifically combining some skills like brace up and protection into one skill. The last update to the class's skills came just a few weeks after Rage's thread Templar Player Desires - Templar - Xen Rebirth so to say we don't listen isn't fair. The team suffers more from being a little unorganized than not listening, if you want me to be honest. But we are all volunteers, none of us are getting paid to do this, so things will naturally take longer to implement than one would hope. I try to communicate and be as transparent as possible, and get community feedback through forum polls when an issue is controversial.

    Your posts on the interwebs are NOT interaction with your players because not all of them are on here...so I think its you who is not listening. Maybe instead of being combative you go behind the scenes and talk to the other team because you clearly dont get it

    Y'all ain't gonna cyberbully me or try to push on me
    Until I'm becoming some chick who I'm not

    I'm a wolf, I dont lie with sheep;)


    Burn the circus down 'cause the world is full of clowns
    They're all stupid and they're proud, making smiles on they mouths
    I don't hang with Bozos, homie, I can't be around you
    Anyone who knows me, knows my feet don't fit in clown shoes


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  • Your posts on the interwebs are NOT interaction with your players because not all of them are on here...so I think its you who is not listening. Maybe instead of being combative you go behind the scenes and talk to the other team because you clearly dont get it

    I do talk to players in game regularly and in private elsewhere. Rage's and your views on the templar class is not shared by everyone. I can tell you multiple people have told me they like the templar class and only have a few nit picks of the class.

  • I do talk to players in game regularly and in private elsewhere. Rage's and your views on the templar class is not shared by everyone. I can tell you multiple people have told me they like the templar class and only have a few nit picks of the class.

    Thats nice....clearly thats not the case and its not just mine and Rages views LOL...so oblivious its comical

    Lost cause....no need to respond further to me

    Y'all ain't gonna cyberbully me or try to push on me
    Until I'm becoming some chick who I'm not

    I'm a wolf, I dont lie with sheep;)


    Burn the circus down 'cause the world is full of clowns
    They're all stupid and they're proud, making smiles on they mouths
    I don't hang with Bozos, homie, I can't be around you
    Anyone who knows me, knows my feet don't fit in clown shoes


  • So, there is a mess within the " GM " side. people who pay attention notice that it's been that way since CBT.

    But what do we know? we are people who play the game. I believe the GM staff should address the server as a whole, not just one individual person justifying that they believe is right on behalf of the current team. "WE ALL" understand the concept that you guys are doing it for free., just for the sole amusement of the casual player-base.


    Address why the " Dragon raid " has been removed, and why are we getting " Lackluster QOL " updates that the majority of players don't even notice?

    " The game is free, there is no cash shop, we the GM teamwork for free; people play for the nostalgic feeling of a dead game that they loved. " these are common excuses people make. If you have a passion for the game and the community something should happen or be addressed, not some low-ended events that drop candy, or random invasions that happen here and there. Sure there isn't much the team can do. due to how the game is coded etc, etc.


    I can throw a certain GM under the bus with the raising of the SH's being 100% then lowered down to 50%, or why one class outmatches every class basically? "Archer Lord".


    The server is highly divided by those who want an actual change, by those who are content and let the silver spoon feed them ( The Rebirth of XENEPIC.)


    The majority of the GM Staff isn't around (50-70%) of the time anyway, and the only person who can actually do something is Synex. SO what role do you guys really play besides keeping the sheep happy and silencing the wolves?

  • I wish there was a mad reaction button, but there isn't sadly. :( Instead I will do this :cursing:



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  • And to think you didn't want to marry me...we are the same...HOW RUDE lol...Applause applause applause

    Y'all ain't gonna cyberbully me or try to push on me
    Until I'm becoming some chick who I'm not

    I'm a wolf, I dont lie with sheep;)


    Burn the circus down 'cause the world is full of clowns
    They're all stupid and they're proud, making smiles on they mouths
    I don't hang with Bozos, homie, I can't be around you
    Anyone who knows me, knows my feet don't fit in clown shoes


  • And to think you didn't want to marry me...we are the same...HOW RUDE lol...Applause applause applause

    I was thinking about the Full House reference "How Rude". This being a sad experience for SGs and Rage. It's rude to say that SGs don't have much, but all classes including SGs need some balancing and love as well. We want these SGs and returning players to play again.


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    AnimeAngel |Level 107 Super Xenian | Xenians

    (YEA… I KNOW…)

    Mangonista |Level 90 Rogue | GM- Bobalastic

    Shini~Chan | Level 67 Archer | Mushashi



  • I was thinking about the Full House reference "How Rude". This being a sad experience for SGs and Rage. It's rude to say that SGs don't have much, but all classes including SGs need some balancing and love as well. We want these SGs and returning players to play again.


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    Literally every time I say it...its just like her xD

    Y'all ain't gonna cyberbully me or try to push on me
    Until I'm becoming some chick who I'm not

    I'm a wolf, I dont lie with sheep;)


    Burn the circus down 'cause the world is full of clowns
    They're all stupid and they're proud, making smiles on they mouths
    I don't hang with Bozos, homie, I can't be around you
    Anyone who knows me, knows my feet don't fit in clown shoes


  • See, here's the thing.. I don't marry in game.


    ;)

    Well dang....just gonna keep on rejecting me xD

    Y'all ain't gonna cyberbully me or try to push on me
    Until I'm becoming some chick who I'm not

    I'm a wolf, I dont lie with sheep;)


    Burn the circus down 'cause the world is full of clowns
    They're all stupid and they're proud, making smiles on they mouths
    I don't hang with Bozos, homie, I can't be around you
    Anyone who knows me, knows my feet don't fit in clown shoes


  • Hi all. Although I am not that much active on the forums, I think I need to step on this thread. As a templar, I have been playing this class since the start of the Open Beta. In OG I just had a 10X assassin so I was not aware on what would come for me by choosing a different class in OB.


    Templar, a class everyone should get jealous of. Strong in its own way, and most of all, self-sufficient.

    Fundamentally, the class is good. Its the only class that can completely solo without relying heavily on pots or a healer.

    I will agree to this, we are a good class in theory. But what is the purpose of the templar right now? Being an MP pot after 156? What I see, is that by trying to make some balances (thanks for that) you impacted some classes a lot, on a negative way. And yes, that is the Templar class. I remember when I first learnt Auto Genesis, I was super hyped. That was until the "exploit" of the dodge came in. High lvl players going full AGI builds in every aoe class is the meta right now, and sad to say, we gotta follow it. But that comes up also with the loss of the Tank identity. AGI Build destroys autogen. I felt stronger when I had to rival other classes even if I flinched a lot because of the high atk speed of the mobs. That's one. Immense flinch was balanced with the pots. But still, dodge build is dominating. So, aoeing on a "tank" class became boring, as we have to sell every time we kill. Also, where is our defence? if you have a look between SM and SG gears, the def difference is minor (yes we have protection u.u, as well as many other skills we have to press every 60 or less seconds).

    And now what am I? When I started this class I thought of a hybrid tank. Now I'm just a full dodge SG, who is good only for pulling at altar. OH yes, and an MP pot.


    The templar class line was suppose to get improvements through dragon raid reward gear, the gear already been added to the game, but the raid kept getting delayed and now delayed indefinitely. So recently we've discussed just adding some of the QoL requests such as combining skills directly to them without the dragon raid gear. I wish the GMs working on the dragon raid were a little more transparent about it rather than just quietly removing it from the roadmap, but it is what it is.

    What about this then. I have been asking the GMs at events and towns multiple times about the roadmap. I was getting silence as a reply, or answer like check the forum we updated the roadmap. The update of the roadmap in 2021 was not something specific, rather than just a filler.
    I also do not think that "It is what it is" is a serious answer. Looks like your voice is not heard by the GM team.

    I don't know what's happening behind the scenes, but a little more transparency would not hurt. We came back to this game because we loved it. I have been waiting since October 2020 for a serious update (reroll system). Listen to the voices of the people, is what I want to ask. It is sad that people that fought hard to raise a character, now quit, or even worse, delete their characters. Personally, what keeps me in the game is the people here. People I played at OG (who most of them already quit the OB), and people I met. If there is nothing more, let us know so we quit earlier.

    A Saint Guardian. Rage, and all the other fellow templars, you will be missed.

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  • I'm in awe of how theatric everything about this post and the comments on it are. I shouldn't be, considering how most of these posts go and who actively comments on them, but here we are.


    Sorry you got death slapped for trying the "shame" route. lol. Weird that a form of bullying didn't work to change the whole game for you.


    Sorry you believe that GMs can't do anything and that GMs can do everything but don't listen - at the same time. Sorry they aren't professional character balancing specialists and instead are just volunteers, helping out however they can, and aren't directly tapped into Synex's brain.


    Sorry that everything you post gets tagged on by the same people who only want to be involved in trashing some part of the game, which ultimately devalues your posts and turns them into hateful, ego-stroking comment parties.


    Not everything you think should be acted on, not everything you post is golden, not every idea you have is worth monologuing on, and not every lack of skill your character has is on accident.


    I hope you deleting your character has no impact on the future of this game. Emotional manipulation is such a low form of persuasion, but one you seem to be very adept in.

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  • I've long since accepted the fact that this game will never reach it's potential. The changes that have been made have been real hit and miss. It's sad when even obvious things that can be improved, are simply ignored/delayed despite them being really easy changes to make.


    In terms of balancing, what people want is "The ability to solo effectively while not feeling dragged down by their class" while also having the "Ability to party and contribute meaningfully and not feeling like the party was detrimental to progress". It's not that hard to fix/improve things, but that's simply not happening. I won't go into details because then I'd be here all day, but to put it simply, mistakes were made and those in charge are too stubborn to admit to it and fix it in a timely manner, and it's been over a year with barely any meaningful improvements on the situation.


    Patience is a virtue, but patience can also run out.

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  • I still lurk around checking for updates but yeah I stopped playing my snoozefest of a class (Holy Avenger) and I don't feel like rerolling either so I stopped logging in. It sucks because I do want to play the game but I rarely accept restarting from zero because that's too boring.


    That being said, I keep checking back because I think classes will be shaken up in the future as long as the dev sticks with the game :d

  • And here we are again!


    I want to remind everyone to stay on topic. If you cannot give critique advice in regards to the templar class as how it was meant to be given or give your condolences to Rage himself, then I highly suggest moving on. If you cannot move on, I will take action.


    Final warning.



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