A Rant (Opinions and Proposals included)

Quote from Tatsi

Its been an issue for 3 years at this point. But if you mean back from OG that it wasn't an issue I get your point.

Hoping the new devs take another look at it. One can only hope it gets fixed cause its so annoying to deal with.

Yes, I mean back in OG days it wasn't an issue. This makes me think... if we know when it started occurring then we might be able to backtrack and confirm the root of the issue.

I'll have to finish looking through the seven pages of posts mentioning black screen.

It seems as though it's almost always been an issue (dating back to Nov '19), which makes me wonder if it's an issue with "code" or with the way the graphics rendering itself is done.

iirc, OG Solstice was a small window (like 800x600 or sumn). I almost always play in a larger window or fullscreen, maybe the rendering is what causes blackscreen :O

I'd imagine most find that small window a bit hard to see, maybe that's what's causing blackscreen? <- just another idea for now, while I finish reading all these old updates

Quote from Tatsi

Boosts are great but with no new content we're speeding people up to that level 200 wall much faster with not much to do.

Quote from Mewshix

o.o

You're absolutely right with this one. I can't think of anything else to get people to come back that doesn't directly or indirectly involve bugs tho :c

I'd say maybe re-releasing some dungeons or cosmetics... but bugs...

I think housing is a decent end-game thing for players that have already capped their character(s). This is a casual game, almost even life sim tbh. Can add an extra layer to that element. Although, I recall housing drops being a major pain for anyone not interested. Mewshix

This is also why I think something bigger than a Mayo spawn a 1 costume is warranted for lv 200 (ie lv200 class skill proposition)

Quote from Tatsi

Mostly agree. It might be harder to balance cause if they reduce the count or increase the rewards, being in a full party could end up getting you more exp than aoeing. A full Red Mines party can be pretty insane, as was Turmeit parties way back when (even though Turmeit doesn't have any kill quests). So I can see why they suck as is since that could be easy to exploit.

I guess I'd rather see daily quests (or quests in general) grant vastly more exp upon completion rather than more kill quests. I've said it before but quests drop off later in game when it's something that should have increased, you have more time between levels and again not much to do in between.

You're right on this one too. I think it should be more along the lines of drop rate readjustment. Honestly, i don't even bother with either quest.

I will update main post now to reflect drop rate vs xp

Quote from Kyla

I’m here to just agree with army, it seems the haters who say just trust gms and wait aren’t here yet. *grabs popcorn*

Did u bring enough to share with everyone!? D:

Not too many posts here giving thoughts from other side, it seems :c

... yet

Thank you for your response

Quote from MeMocha

Quote from MeMocha

LOL RELAX!!! xD

*waits for responses* XDD

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Quote from LinYue

LF> Rurara

Same old Players getting bored ...

I´ve suggested it once put some Seasonal Unique Item/Costume/Wings at Token Exchange NPC, change it in the next Season ...

I'm not the only one!!! Rurara was fun af

Also miss Dimension Drift/Rift/whatever and the capesss

Hopefully they give us some updates soon.... Biannual, annual, anyyy updates.

Thank you for your response

Quote from Tatsi

I dare you to play on that resolution for a week, for testing purposes of course

No one seems to know, otherwise I would 😇

But is there a solution to blackscreen? ;o

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I think it will be updated soon, they have a lot to fix lets give the new team a chance to upgrade the game remember we have had issues a long time with the other Team which they did what they lets see if they can bring it back

I don't think it's screen resolution causing the Black screen Problem, because, I have bigger screens and they didn't start too crash, Freeze up or poof, until they updated and the more they updated the more crashes I/we got my game was fine with that until they made changes for the Holiday dungeons

I think it's something they did to the game that wasn't compatible and now the new team has to find and fix it, I hope they can get it done, because, I like playing with friends it's a Social Game not many of those around anymore lets hope they can figure it out another thing is they are reading suggestions so maybe good things will come soon

Quote from Tatsi

Screenshots I got from 2008 are 1024x768, guess that's more based on the monitor I had at the time. Lowest setting is 800x600

Look at that zoom

Char: ARMYPRO99 - SM

Map: Despair Canyon (saved at [35.183], South SafeZone)

Party: of 2; BUFFZ4U, sitting in Brynhild/Arcanias Square

Methodology: Start on Despair, run around (ideally out of sz around mobs, depending on varying mob count, usually ~4-7 on first part of map), use warp scroll. Repeat until Blackscreen.

Other notes: the only UI window I kept open was inventory [edit: and party interface], on a mount (husky, arbitrarily), no other pets out, no skills used on map (yet).

*was sus so took a screenshot and game crashed. Tried again, both numbers were recorded. (there are 3 instances of this in the table above)

**interference with methodology. (there are 2 instances of this in the table above)

[Striked data points have been scrapped for calculations]

Conclusion: Blackscreen occurred on average once every 14.3125 warps when in a party with someone else (regardless of their position) when using a warp scroll to warp to the same map.

2nd test: 14 Black Screen instances in 274 Warp Scrolls (using exact same methodology), this is an average of once every 19.5714 warp scrolls. An additional 11 instances of game crashing when taking a screenshot (mostly at 3440x1440) occurred. I imagine this is because my main monitor is set to a 24", makes sense a window size larger than the screen would give issues, these data points were scrapped.

Other Notes: Testing was done slightly before and after 2PM and 8PM ST WBs (~10-15min), some resolutions seemed to work better but most were only tested once. Will test more times to see if any trends appear

Test 2 occured primarily between 4-5PM ST. Same methodology was used at less active server time.

Further Research:

- if Party Interface is a contributing factor (thank you Tatsi, this was an oversight by me)

- how often out of 100-1000 warp scrolls results in blackscreen at each resolution

- occurrence rate with other player(s)/items on map

- occurrence rate on other maps

Pic related; Thank god the solution isn't 800x600

yawn

[Edit: New data added, more explicit methodology, additional idea]

Quote from Aerith

I think it will be updated soon, they have a lot to fix lets give the new team a chance to upgrade the game remember we have had issues a long time with the other Team lets see if they can bring it back

We've been waiting 6 weeks for Adeline's Gifts as per the last update. I'd love to have faith in whoever the new top dog is, but we've barely heard a peep from them

Overpromising and underdelivering is............

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your smarter than I am on this i'm no computer whiz for sure lol, I'm just saying I have had the same thing happen " every time I do Cow Dungeon on this Computer im on, I freeze up every game yet i can AOE just fine? " computers have different Screen resolutions ,because the screens are different size , I was at the store to get a new Monitor, I was told if i play games don't get a touch screen because it isn't comparable with games? so both are regular Monitors I miss my Touch screens

I am far from a computer wiz. I'm honestly hoping for a stroke of ingenious luck with these black-screen guesses. I'm more of a brute force type :c

I do fancy me some calculations tho :B

This kind of supports my line of thinking...

If black screen crash is an issue that seemingly has no set fix, maybe it's because there are so many factors involved in each specific instance?

Everyone probably has a different monitor resolution, window resolution, graphics card (and CPU?/RAM), etc

Something like that could easily go overlooked, but with testing being this tedious (and expensive, regarding various monitors/sizes), maybe that's why a solution seems so far-fetched?

As I mentioned, the community is willing to look past some (minor-ish) issues for the greater good of keeping the game alive and online

and I think community devotion is somewhat underestimated - especially if it is to only be gauged in the form of monetary donations,

I think a formal request (yes, with some general payout, because players/humans beings don't like doing things for free) to gather more information would be beneficial

Quote from MagicalXGrl

If you check the events page, there is an event coming up that contain Adeline's Gifts as prizes such as

To this I say...

Quote from ARMYPRO99

Overpromising and underdelivering is............

Quote from Aerith

I checked my Settings my Screen Resolution is 1920 x 1080 its the recommended setting for my Monitor on this computer it's a 24 inch and my other Monitor has the same even though its a 32 inch?

I actually have the same monitor size and screen window sizes set o.o

Funny enough this combination seems to have the highest average occurrences of black screen (based on the mere 2 points of data I have for all resolutions atm)

Thank you for info

Quote from Lira

I have a fix for blackscreening - red scroll to town, then green scroll back to your map.

I have found that "fix" to work ;o

but that's a lotta red scrolls, bug not ded :c

Thank you for posting info

Quote from jzhiggins

It's not about bickering back and forth or this game will die if the gms are genuinely looking for ideas what are the doos and donts for recruiting the fun of all these events is the community itself not necessarily the gifts that we get from it like sure items are cool but what if we tank in 6 months because player donations disappear or the population disappears entirely if a gm can contact me maybe we can spitball some sort of idea that would work not only to bolster the population maybe get some more assistance for the gms who knows the people out here that enjoy games with this play style that don't know it exists because all the new shiny stuff gets so insanely over promoted and most of them suck in terms of over promising and under delivery aswell not trying to beat

Carnivolo event looks very cool, curious to see if the Q&A gives any solid info on new content drops. Hype for the other upcoming events GMs have planned for the community too, maybe if they advertised them in the discord? or even Facebook group posts. I personally don't check every day, but again lack of activity makes it look that much dead-er when people come back. Even like weekly or monthly reminders, I personally really like the notices around WB in-game

or at least helps us fill in some blanks on advertising and donation campaigns to either directly get certain problems fixed or even for certain content/event unlocks

I know for a fact people have mentioned they wished there was a way to pay a couple bucks instead of grinding out LBs at first, is a $2-5 starter package really that absurd/illegal? Apparently, the logistics for something like that as a non-profit is a nightmare? seems like a standard fundraiser to me, idk

ie the basics that any new NEW player wouldn't know is the best in slot/etc? Like maybe a pow bell and cat tail for noob mspd and atk/def or the classic cape and bell +anything with mspd?

Thanks for your continued effort

I'm down to record during boost/some of the upcoming events. Never put any AMVs together myself tho... yet ;D